IPv4 shutdown in mobile

Lee Howard Lee at asgard.org
Tue Dec 22 18:53:25 UTC 2015


On 12/22/15, 1:13 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Owen DeLong"
<nanog-bounces at nanog.org on behalf of owen at delong.com> wrote:

>Yet until Apple gets to that IPv6-only stage, you¹re refusing to support
>IPv6 for those of us
>that need it today even while we still need IPv4, too.
>
>Owen


Owen, you¹re out of line.

Lee



>
>> On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:08 , Ca By <cb.list6 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, December 22, 2015, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com
>><mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
>> Does this mean you are negligent for not supporting IPv6 on my phone on
>>your network?
>> 
>> My phone is perfectly capable of IPv6, yet because it doesn¹t support
>>your particular religion
>> about IPv4 translation, you refuse to support IPv6 on it.
>> 
>> When is T-Mobile going to fix their IPv6 implementation and stop
>>ignoring the #1 market
>> leading phone manufacturer?
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
>> 
>> Apple has an ipv6-only plan in the link above. They have committed to
>>remove the ipv4 dependent apps from the app store. Once the ipv4-only
>>apps are bannished, i dont see any roadblocks for ipv6 on iPhone.
>> 
>> While you say there is a religious war, i am saying Apple outlined a
>>plan for ipv6-only and T-Mobile is likely to follow that plan from
>>Apple. 
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>>  
>> > On Dec 22, 2015, at 04:45 , Ca By <cb.list6 at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
>>wrote:
>> >
>> > TL;DR version: the data shows you are negligent if your eyeball
>>content
>> > (cdn, cloud, ...) does  not support native ipv6.
>> >
>> > With the NAT and IPv4 leasing threads lingering on, i figured it was
>>time
>> > for an update on how the other half live
>> >
>> > More than 1/3 of North America mobile traffic to the top websites is
>>end to
>> > end ipv6
>> > 
>>http://www.worldipv6launch.org/2015-wrapup-more-than-13-us-mobile-traffic
>>-is-ipv6-and-still-growing/
>><http://www.worldipv6launch.org/2015-wrapup-more-than-13-us-mobile-traffi
>>c-is-ipv6-and-still-growing/>
>> >
>> > The trend is clearly growing, and as AT&T and Sprint catch up with
>>T-Mobile
>> > and Verizon, the acceleration to 50% should be easily achieved.
>> > Furthermore, only one mobile carrier has iPhone dual-stacked today
>>(afaik),
>> > but Apple has a plan for banning ipv4-only apps and has delivered the
>> > required features for having ipv6-only iphones in 2016 with these iOS
>>9.2
>> > features
>> >
>> > 
>>https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/NetworkingInternetW
>>eb/Conceptual/NetworkingOverview/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Trans
>>ition/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Transition.html
>><https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/NetworkingInternet
>>Web/Conceptual/NetworkingOverview/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Tran
>>sition/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Transition.html>
>> >
>> > On some mobile providers, ipv6 is already dominant and ipv4 is
>>waning. Once
>> > iPhones updates to ipv6-only as described above, ipv4 will only be a
>>corner
>> > case of operations.  This comes with added benefit that ipv6 is
>>faster :
>> >
>> > 
>>https://code.facebook.com/posts/1192894270727351/ipv6-it-s-time-to-get-on
>>-board/ 
>><https://code.facebook.com/posts/1192894270727351/ipv6-it-s-time-to-get-o
>>n-board/>
>> >
>> > At least in mobile, the change to ipv6 has been quick and the pace is
>> > increasing -- not just on ipv6 deployment but also on ipv4 shutdown.
>>I know
>> > many people liken ipv6 to "the boy who cried wolf", so be it, the
>> > data shows the ipv6 wolf is here.  Or perhapsin hind   sight, we will
>>see
>> > the right metaphor was "the tortoise and the hare" or "the little
>>engine
>> > that could"... Or even better IPv4 is John Henry.  It was the best in
>>its
>> > time, but times have changed.
>> >
>> > CB
>> 
>
>





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