de-peering for security sake

TR Shaw tshaw at
Fri Dec 25 22:41:19 UTC 2015

ARF ( <>, and X-ARF ( <>) are used quite alot and many, like Yahoo, only accept ARF reports on abusive emails.

you might want to read MAAWG’s BCP: <>


> On Dec 25, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Clayton Zekelman <clayton at> wrote:
> Just an off the cuff thought but if the format of the abuse messages could be standardized so handling them would be semi-automated somewhat like ACNS notices, it might improve response.
> Maybe such a format already exists and just isn't widely used.
> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Dec 25, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike at> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015, Colin Johnston wrote:
>>> why do the chinese network folks never reply and action abuse reports, normal slow speed network abuse is tolerated, but not high speed deliberate abuse albeit compromised machines
>> This is not a chinese problem, this is a general ISP problem. Most ISPs do not respond to abuse reports.
>> -- 
>> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike at

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