interconnection costs (off list)

Faisal Imtiaz faisal at snappytelecom.net
Tue Dec 22 19:45:06 UTC 2015


or More like getting too old to remember completing the edit of mail to: field !

LOL!


Faisal Imtiaz
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Hammett" <nanog at ics-il.net>
> Cc: "nanog list" <nanog at nanog.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 2:38:21 PM
> Subject: Re: interconnection costs (off list)

> Faisal is new to the Internet. ;-)
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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> Midwest Internet Exchange
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> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal at snappytelecom.net>
> To: "Reza Motamedi" <motamedi at cs.uoregon.edu>
> Cc: "nanog list" <nanog at nanog.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:31:11 PM
> Subject: Re: interconnection costs (off list)
> 
> Ouch... so much for off list .. :(
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support at Snappytelecom.net
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal at snappytelecom.net>
>> To: "Reza Motamedi" <motamedi at cs.uoregon.edu>
>> Cc: "nanog list" <nanog at nanog.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 2:28:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: interconnection costs (off list)
> 
>> Salam Reza,
>> 
>> You are asking an interesting set of questions, it might be easier to answer the
>> over a phone call conversation (at least fro our perspective, being a small
>> ISP/NSP ). I can write to you a lengthy reply, but am not sure if I will be
>> able to convey to you the information properly.
>> 
>> The way you have posed the question, indicates to me that you are taking a
>> particular view of a 'network', which is not the same view I hold. I am not
>> sure if your view is more prevalent or our view as a service provider.
>> 
>> Regardless I think it would make for an interesting conversation. Feel free to
>> call me at your convenience.
>> 
>> Regards.
>> 
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>> 
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support at Snappytelecom.net
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Reza Motamedi" <motamedi at cs.uoregon.edu>
>>> To: "nanog list" <nanog at nanog.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:44:06 AM
>>> Subject: interconnection costs
>> 
>>> Hi NANOG
>>> 
>>> We are a group of researchers and our focus is on the economy of
>>> interconnection in the Internet. My question is mainly about the various
>>> costs of an AS establishing a connection with another AS, including the
>>> costs charged by the colocation providers. I am familiar with most of the
>>> connection options such as public peering on IXP, and private peering
>>> through xconnects. My understanding is that in addition to the cost of
>>> transit that the smaller AS pays to the larger AS, in the former you pay a
>>> monthly fee to establish a link to the switching fabric and then you can
>>> connect to as many ASes that are member in the IXP, and in the later you
>>> need to pay for as many xconnects that you need to connect to as many ASes
>>> that you plan to peer with. Obviously in both cases there is the cost of
>>> being in the colocation and renting a rack or whatever. What are the other
>>> costs involved? How should the AS reach the colocation center in the first
>>> place? I don't think every network can dig a hole an lay cables. Who should
>>> they pay to get from one PoP to another? Do ASes have to pay for xconnect
>>> to connect their PoP in a data center to the rest of their network?
>>> 
>>> I think there is no single answer as different businesses may have
>>> different pricing models. I hope the discussion can help me understand the
>>> whole ecosystem a little bit better.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards
>>> Reza Motamedi (R.M)
>>> Graduate Research Fellow
>>> Oregon Network Research Group
>>> Computer and Information Science
> > > University of Oregon



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