DE-CIX vs Equinix

Mike Hammett nanog at ics-il.net
Mon Aug 3 14:14:12 UTC 2015


Usually on a distributed exchange, everyone on the same fabric is available at the same standard price. Local datacenter or the furthest datacenter, same price. 

Look at what happened in NYC. I'd expect something similar in Dallas, though I have no inside information behind that. https://nyc.de-cix.net/news/news-archive/ 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Colton Conor" <colton.conor at gmail.com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog at ics-il.net> 
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog at nanog.org> 
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 8:50:26 AM 
Subject: Re: DE-CIX vs Equinix 


Does DE-CIX usually go to market with at least some of the big content providers already on board? For example, will guys like Netflix, Google, and other CDN's more than likely be on the exchange starting day 1? 


How does DE-CIX work if you want to cross connect over the exchange to another provider in a different on-net datacenter of the exchange in the same metro market? 


On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Mike Hammett < nanog at ics-il.net > wrote: 


I'd expect that eventually DE-CIX will build into every Dallas datacenter as they have done in New York and Germany whereas Equinix is only available... in Equinix. 




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----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Colton Conor" < colton.conor at gmail.com > 
To: "Charles Gucker" < cgucker at onesc.net > 
Cc: "NANOG" < nanog at nanog.org > 
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 8:36:20 AM 
Subject: Re: DE-CIX vs Equinix 

Charles, 

You mentioned to not use " DE-CIX NYC pricing as a benchmark" for Dallas, 
but it looks like DE-CIX has priced their Dallas ports, according to their 
website, at the same prices at NYC: 

https://www.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/#c2374 

PortSpeed/GbpsMRC1GE1US$ 57510GE10US$ 1,250100GE100On request 

Pricing table effective from 1 August 2015. 


There is a special offer: 


*Join us now and get your 1GE or 10GE port free of charge for* 

- *6 months* (minimum contract term of 12 months) or 
- *12 months* (minimum contract term of 36 months). 




https://www.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/#c2374 


So it seems that their 10G port price, after promo, is $1250, and it does 
not mention cross connect would be included. Compare this to Equinix's 10G 
port with a cross connect included at $1000 per month. Considering Equinix's 
cross connects are usually $350 per month, this means Equinix's actual 10G 
port really cost $650 per month. 

So, I will ask the question again, why are providers going to jump and 
use DE-CIX 
over Equinix's peering exchange? I am failing to see the benefit. 
I thought it would be price, but apparently not. 

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Charles Gucker < cgucker at onesc.net > wrote: 

> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Colton Conor < colton.conor at gmail.com > 
> wrote: 
> > What are the main difference between these two peering companies, 
> > exchanges, and overall operating model? The market in question would be 
> > Dallas Texas where Equinix already has the only established peering 
> > exchange with over 100 members, and DE-CIX just announced today that that 
> > would also be building one in Dallas. It will take time for DE-CIX to 
> > establish their exchange in Dallas and get members, but they better 
> > question is why would people switch? 
> 
> In short, Equinix is by far and large a data center operator and 
> the Internet exchange is an add-on service only available within their 
> data center locations. DE-CIX is an exchange point operator who 
> operates in multiple dis-parent data center locations. 
> 
> > For a 10G port with a cross connect to the exchange included Equinix 
> > charges $1000 per month. According to DE-CIX it looks like they charge 
> > $1250 per month for a 10G port in NYC, so I asusme the same would be true 
> > in Dallas. https://nyc.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/ 
> 
> I would not use DE-CIX NYC pricing as a benchmark. As DE-CIX 
> learned, NYC is a very difficult market to get connectivity and to 
> build an exchange in. As such their operating costs are a lot 
> higher than in other markets and I don't believe it would be a good 
> assumption to use NYC based pricing in Dallas. But keep in mind, 
> DE-CIX likes to distribute their network access nodes to get a larger 
> audience than within ones own facility. 
> 
> Also, I would suggest looking at the big picture and the cost of 
> colocation services in a facility other than Equinix to "level the 
> playing field". 
> 
> > Looks like DE-CIX will offer a promo to entice new members to join, and 
> > their exchange will be in the carrier neatural meet me room operated by 
> the 
> > infomart that will have little to no cross connect fees. 
> > 
> > Why would people pay more to connect to an exchange with less members? 
> What 
> > is the european exchange that is a non-profit and basically only covers 
> the 
> > cost of operating the exchange? 
> 
> As stated above, when looking at the big picture, it may or may 
> not be more expensive when all of your other services are considered. 
> 
> It should be said that I don't have any axe to grind and think 
> very highly of Equinix. But with respect to Dallas, I would suggest 
> looking at bigger picture and see if your assumptions still hold true. 
> 
> charles 
> 








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