BGP offloading (fixing legacy router BGP scalability issues)

Colin Johnston colinj at
Fri Apr 3 19:02:47 UTC 2015

china says not a problem since they have head in sand and ignore cooperation
phone contact with chinse folks does not help either


Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Apr 2015, at 19:51, Barry Shein <bzs at> wrote:
>> On April 3, 2015 at 20:22 baconzombie at (Bacon Zombie) wrote:
>> Is port scanning illegal in China?
>> If not the there is no reason for then to do anything about it.
> I don't think that's a minimal standard one has to use, illegal or
> not.
> Management of the internet infrastructure is primarily a cooperative,
> voluntary (in terms of cooperation and communication and agreement to
> BCPs and standards), and good-faith effort, not just bounded by what
> is or isn't illegal.
> As I said before these are companies most probably with many millions
> of dollars on the table, not miscreants out to cause problems.
> I suspect if one got them to the table the answers would be a bit more
> nuanced than "it's not illegal!" even if someone burdened with manning
> a support desk may have said something like that.
> All we really know at this point is that flinging emails at their
> admins hasn't been as effective as one might like. That's not entirely
> surprising.
> -- 
>        -Barry Shein
> The World              | bzs at           |
> Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD        | Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada
> Software Tool & Die    | Public Access Internet     | SINCE 1989     *oo*

More information about the NANOG mailing list