BGP offloading (fixing legacy router BGP scalability issues)

Thu Apr 2 20:34:26 UTC 2015

Sounds there's a need for a higher level of dialogue. Hey, if it can
be done with Iran...

These are identifiable companies not sub-rosa criminal gangs (as we
get with spam) so there ought to be some hope.

On April 2, 2015 at 21:10 colinj at gt86car.org.uk (Colin Johnston) wrote:
 > yes have tried chinese language communication as well.
 > none of it works, they dont believe bad traffic is a big issue where it has been proved 100% is bad
 > we do belive this is due to bad abuse practice not informing customers and also deliberately sending bad traffic to test exploits on a large scale.
 > 
 > ssl bad cert signing in china is just a example of this culture
 > 
 > shutting the door if it is shown unfriendly traffic makes sense to me
 > 
 > colin
 > 
 > 
 > Sent from my iPhone
 > 
 > > On 2 Apr 2015, at 20:50, Barry Shein <bzs at world.std.com> wrote:
 > > 
 > > 
 > > The essence of this discussion is IMHO a little...um...trite.
 > > 
 > > Be that as it may how many of you have attempted to contact these
 > > providers in Chinese?
 > > 
 > > Or do you all have good reason to believe that is never the problem?
 > > 
 > > 
 > >> On April 2, 2015 at 11:05 goemon at anime.net (goemon at anime.net) wrote:
 > >>> On Thu, 2 Apr 2015, Mark Tinka wrote:
 > >>> Most of the spam I get comes from North America. Go figure. I'm not
 > >>> about to cut access to that continent off.
 > >> 
 > >> Big difference is that north america is usually responsive to abuse 
 > >> notifications and sometimes has LEO who will listen.
 > >> 
 > >> china is neither.
 > >> 
 > >> -Dan
 > > 
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 > >        -Barry Shein
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