internet governance, rir policy, and the decline of civilization

Christopher Morrow morrowc.lists at
Sun Sep 21 01:45:11 UTC 2014

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Randy Bush <randy at> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure for example, if 11GER is needed for number registry personnel
>>> costs, that could give you 100 hostmasters with 5500EUR/month salary, in good
>>> likelihood, we'd be able to run focused number registry with volunteers.
>> I think your math is off? 11,000,000 / 100 == 110,000 / 12 == 9,166 month
>> right? Did you mean '200 hostmasters at 5500/month' ?
>> you'd likely also have to put into the mix the cost of infrastructure,
>> right? I'm not sure what current arin/ripe/apnic folk have deployed, I
>> imagine some servers (100k of gear? replaced every 3yrs?) and
>> routing/switching devices (2M replaced every 3 yrs), and link costs.
> we could nit-pick saku's arithmetic to death, but what would we learn?
> it costs money and clue to run a good registry, news at eleven.

sure, my point wasn't really that 'math is wrong', so much as 'running
a registry likely costs some cake in gear/bw/admin-time'

and that i'm not sure that 11m is off as a number close to the scale
of the cost/problem.

> i would love to see some folk with enable on the board, such as you.

can't other officer from same company already serving, phew! :) (see
bullfighter turn stance)

> but without the paradigm shift, it would just be pain and torture to no
> real avail.  and good folk with enable are too busy enabling the
> internet as opposed to making careers as wannabe micro-policy wonks.

I also agree that 'lots of policy' hasn't really gotten us anywhere :(

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