Linux: concerns over systemd [OT]

Joe Greco jgreco at ns.sol.net
Wed Oct 22 11:12:29 UTC 2014


> >>> Which leads me to ask - those of you running server farms - what
> >>> distros are popular these days, for server-side operations?
> >> been running bsd forever.  but moving to debian and ganeti, as bsd
> >> does not host virtualization.
> > Simply not true; http://bhyve.org/
> > It is a bit immature compared to Xen+Ganeti or something like that.
> 
> apologies.  i thought we were talking about production systems.  my
> mistake.

Oh, c'mon Randy, you've been around long enough to know how this all
works.

You can't honestly tell me that VMware ESX was born handling production
loads.  You can't honestly tell me that Xen was born handling production
loads.  All hypervisor technologies were new at one point in their life
cycle, and most were also catastrofails at one point in their life cycle.
The fact that bhyve is new means it's more immature, but people are
certainly trying noncricitical production loads on it.  Y'know, the same
way they did years ago with ESX.

No one's saying you have to trust it with your production workloads, but
it's pretty unfair to characterize BSD as "not host(ing) virtualization"
when so much effort has been put into that very issue, specifically so
that we could gain the advantages of a BSD hypervisor that supported 
ZFS natively...

... JG
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