Phasing out of copper

Fri Nov 28 17:26:37 UTC 2014

Verizon in MA removes copper upon FiOS installation.

My dad cancels his phone service every year when he migrates south for
the winter.  Upon returning home a few years ago, he requested
reactivation of his phone line.  Verizon refused to activate the
copper, instead switching him to FiOS Voice.  I believe they removed
the copper lines at that time.

On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:46:03AM -0500, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote:
> Currently in the midst of a CRTC policy hearing in Canada on future of
> competition in ISPs.
> 
> Incumbents claim they have no plans to retire their copper plant after
> deploying FTTP/FTTH.  (strategically to convince regulator that keeping
> ISPs on copper is fine and no need to let them access FTTP).
> 
> For my reply I am trying to get more authoritative info to show that
> incumbents do have plans to retire the copper plant once enough
> customers have migrated to FTTP ( I heard that 80% migration is the
> tip-ver where they convert the rest of customers to FTTP to be able to
> shutddown the copper).
> 
> Anyone have pointers to documents or experiences that would help me
> convince the regulator that incumbents deploy FTTP with eventual goal to
> be able to shutdown their old copper instead of perpetually maintaining
> both systems ?
> 
> Also being discussed is removing regulations for access to ULL
> (unbundled local loops).  In areas being upgraded to FTTP, are there
> services that really need copper ULLs and do not have an FTTP equivalent
> ? (home alarm systems ?).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> When an incumbent states for the record that "retiring copper is not in
> their current plans", I know that it means that it isn't in their short
> term plans. But I need some evidence of what other telcos do to help
> show the incumbent is "spinning".
> 
> Any help appreciated.