Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality

Jerry Dent effinjdent at gmail.com
Thu May 15 19:02:19 UTC 2014

If traffic is unbalanced, what determines who is the payer and who is the
payee? Apparently whoever can hold on to their customers better while
performance is shit.

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Blake Dunlap <ikiris at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree, and those peers should be then paid for the bits that your
> customers are requesting that they send through you if you cannot
> maintain a balanced peer relationship with them. It's shameful that
> access networks are attempting to not pay for their leeching of mass
> amounts of data in clear violation of standard expectations for
> balanced peering agreements.
> Oh... you meant something else?
> -Blake
> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Livingood, Jason
> <Jason_Livingood at cable.comcast.com> wrote:
> > On 5/15/14, 1:28 PM, "Nick B" <nick at pelagiris.org<mailto:
> nick at pelagiris.org>> wrote:
> >
> > By "categorically untrue" do you mean "FCC's open internet rules allow
> us to refuse to upgrade full peers"?
> >
> > Throttling is taking, say, a link from 10G and applying policy to
> constrain it to 1G, for example. What if a peer wants to go from a balanced
> relationship to 10,000:1, well outside of the policy binding the
> relationship? Should we just unquestionably toss out our published policy –
> which is consistent with other networks – and ignore expectations for other
> peers?
> >
> > Jason

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