New Zealand Spy Agency To Vet Network Builds, Provider Staff

Patrick W. Gilmore patrick at
Tue May 13 21:25:06 UTC 2014

Exactly. They just broke in and left a trail of open doors behind.

Again, not saying either is good, just saying at least NZ is being "above board".


On May 13, 2014, at 14:01 , Owen DeLong <owen at> wrote:

> I didn’t see the NSA telling us what we had to buy are demanding advance approval rights on our maintenance procedures.
> Owen
> On May 13, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick at> wrote:
>> Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of this. But at least they did it in the open, unlike the NSA (where you live).
>> -- 
>> TTFN,
>> patrick
>> On May 13, 2014, at 12:12 , Owen DeLong <owen at> wrote:
>>> Yep… If I had infrastructure in NZ, that would be enough to cause me to remove it.
>>> Owen
>>> On May 13, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster at> wrote:
>>>> Hash: SHA256
>>>> I realize that New Zealand is *not* in North America (hence NANOG),
>>>> but I figure that some global providers might be interested here.
>>>> This sounds rather... dire (probably not the right word).
>>>> "The new Telecommunications (Interception Capability and Security) Act
>>>> of 2013 is in effect in New Zealand and brings in several drastic
>>>> changes for ISPs, telcos and service providers. One of the country's
>>>> spy agencies, the GCSB, gets to decide on network equipment
>>>> procurement and design decisions (PDF), plus operators have to
>>>> register with the police and obtain security clearance for some staff.
>>>> Somewhat illogically, the NZ government pushed through the law
>>>> combining mandated communications interception capabilities for law
>>>> enforcement, with undefined network security requirements as decided
>>>> by the GCSB. All network operators are subject to the new law,
>>>> including local providers as well as the likes of Facebook, Google,
>>>> Microsoft, who have opposed it, saying the new statutes clash with
>>>> overseas privacy legislation."
>>>> FYI,
>>>> - - ferg
>>>> - -- 
>>>> Paul Ferguson
>>>> VP Threat Intelligence, IID
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