[mailop] IPv6 DNSBL

David Hofstee david at mailplus.nl
Thu Mar 27 09:37:32 UTC 2014


I suggest reputation on the reply-to domain also (if authenticated of course). No more running to other IPs / ESPs if you are a bad boy. You can integrate it in browsers and show it there too (watch out; don't enter your email address here because they will spam you or have spam evading practices [if no authentication takes place]). Show the reputation in the email client if possible.

And I would like fine-grained complaining possible (so everyone can filter like the big boys can, one might need the 'ham' numbers too). But you want to be sure such numbers are authentic.


David Hofstee

Deliverability Management
MailPlus B.V. Netherlands (ESP)


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Van: mailop [mailto:mailop-bounces at mailop.org] Namens Michael Peddemors
Verzonden: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:06 AM
Aan: mailop at mailop.org
Onderwerp: Re: [mailop] IPv6 DNSBL

On 14-03-26 04:42 PM, John Levine wrote:
> As a reliable rule of thumb, any list that's large enough to be 
> interesting is also large enough to be compromised.
>
> I know people who have run whitelists at Returnpath, and I was in 
> charge of the never very successful Spamhaus whitelist.  The ones at 
> Returnpath always said that much of the job was dealing with bullshit 
> and deception from people trying to sneak into the whitelist.  At 
> Spamhaus, the main problem was that nearly all of the people willing 
> to go to the effort to be whitelisted didn't qualify, which wasn't 
> surprising, since people with good mail behavior rarely have trouble 
> getting their mail delivered.
>
> R's,
> John

Here Here..

(For instance, we recommend that people running filtering turn those off right away, eg SA..)

But we do see a lot of people discussing this here, and at the risk of making even more noise on this list on this subject, and maybe we should kill the thread there..

It would be interesting to get a poll of sorts.. hands please..
(You can reply off-list)

Options:

1) Only allow IPv4 to be used for MTA's
2) Create a Registry of Operators/IPs for MTA's on IPv6
3) Allow all IPv6 to be used for MTA's, and use blacklists
4) Other (Suggestions)

And if you believe in item 2, (personally I am happy with 1 or 2 and open to 4) what would you expect such a registry to look like?






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