arin representation

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Tue Mar 25 02:12:30 UTC 2014


Yes and no… Everyone who receives a direct allocation is a member.

Those who receive direct assignments from ARIN, OTOH, are not members unless
they choose to also pay an additional $500/year for that membership.

Owen

On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:53 PM, Timothy Morizot <tmorizot at gmail.com> wrote:

> Unless I misremember, everyone who receives a direct allocation from ARIN
> and signs an RSA is automatically a member. It's not clear to me what
> "owner of a /24 network" means in that context. (I don't recall if signing
> an LRSA in and of itself also makes one a member, since by the time we had
> signed an LRSA, we had long since received our direct IPv6 allocation under
> an RSA.)
> 
> But perhaps Randy is looking for the number of /24 equivalents allocated to
> legacy resource holders who haven't also received an IPv6 direct allocation
> or other IPv4 direct allocation under an RSA?
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Naslund, Steve <SNaslund at medline.com>wrote:
> 
>> Exactly right John.  I think the term "owned" is a problem here.
>> 
>> It seems to me that the terms would correctly be "holder" or who the
>> address space was issued to or "user" being the end user using that space.
>> 
>> Wouldn't all of the holders be ARIN members unless grandfathered in?
>> 
>> Steven Naslund
>> Chicago IL
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Curran [mailto:jcurran at arin.net]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 10:36 PM
>> To: Randy Bush
>> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
>> Subject: Re: arin representation
>> 
>> On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Randy Bush <randy at psg.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> two questions:
>>> 
>>> o of the /24s in the arin region, what percentage are owned by arin
>>>   members?
>> 
>> Randy -
>> 
>>  Happy to generate these - two questions for clarity.
>> 
>> 1) Should we expand /16's and /8's into the corresponding number of /24's ?
>>   (or do you only want those blocks issued originally as /24's to be
>> counted)
>> 
>> 2)  In terms of categories, we could go strictly with /24's held by ARIN
>> members
>>    versus /24's held by non-members (and resulting percentages); note
>> that would
>>    be predominantly ISPs since end-users assignments from ARIN are
>> unlikely to be
>>    members unless they specifically opted to join. Alternatively, we
>> could provide
>>    counts /24's under RSA, /24's under LRSA, and /24's
>> legacy-no-agreement as the
>>    three categories of counts desired (and each percentage of the total)
>> 
>>    So, based on above, would you prefer the /24 space statistics as asked
>>    (member/non-member) or rsa/lrsa/legacy-no-agreement?
>> 
>>> o of the address holders in the arin region, what percentage are arin
>>>   members?
>> 
>>  Will do.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> /John
>> 
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
>> ARIN
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 




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