misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.)

Tue Mar 25 00:39:09 UTC 2014

On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:36 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Justin M. Streiner
> <streiner at cluebyfour.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014, William Herrin wrote:
>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Justin M. Streiner
>>> <streiner at cluebyfour.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> All of these 'Hail Mary' options for 'saving' IPv4 really are pointless.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> IPv4 is like the U.S. Penny. It'll be useless long before it goes
>>> away. And right now it's far from useless.
>> 
>> Interesting analogy, but it misses the larger point.  The larger point is
>> that the ongoing effort to squeeze more mileage out of IPv4 will soon [1]
>> outweigh the mileage we (collectively) get out of it.
> 
> Hi Justin,
> 
> That's what I hear. Interesting thing though: it hasn't happened yet.
> IANA ran out of /8's and it didn't happen. The RIRs dropped to
> high-conservation mode on their final allocations and it didn't
> happen. How could that be?

I disagree with your assertion that it hasn’t happened. It _IS_ happening.

The cost of maintaining IPv4 is already going up and the increases will continue to become more dramatic over time.

Owen