misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.)
owen at delong.com
Tue Mar 25 00:10:45 UTC 2014
Let’s assume, for a moment, that there are 32 /8s out there that could be reclaimed.
Let’s further assume that renumbering out of a /8 takes, on average, about 18 months.
(That’s moving almost 1,000,000 customers per month on average, potentially).
Even if we got all 32 /8 equivalents back over the next 18 months, it would only buy
us approximately 2 years of additional IPv4 life-span when divvied up among APNIC,
The IPv4 situation is not artificial. IPv4 is being maintained well past its useful life
at great cost.
On Mar 22, 2014, at 2:30 AM, Bryan Socha <bryan at digitalocean.com> wrote:
> Oh btw, how many ipv4s are you hording with zero justification to keep
> them? I was unpopular during apricot for not liking the idea of no
> liability leasing of v4. I don't like this artificial v4 situation
> every eyeball network created. Why is v4 a commodity and asset? Where
> is the audits. I can justify my 6 /14s, can you still?
> On Mar 22, 2014 4:36 AM, "TJ" <trejrco at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Millions of IPs don't matter in the face of X billions of people, and
>> XX-XXX billions of devices - and this is just the near term estimate.
>> (And don't forget utilization efficiency - Millions of IPs is not
>> millions of customers served.)
>> Do IPv6.
>> On Mar 22, 2014 3:09 AM, "Bryan Socha" <bryan at digitalocean.com> wrote:
>>> As someone growing in the end of ipv4, its all fake. Sure, the rirs
>>> run out, but that's boring. Don't believe the fake auction sites.
>>> Fair price of IP at the end is $1 for bad Rep $2 for barely used, $3 for
>>> spam and $4 for legacy. Stop the inflation. Millions of IPS exist,
>>> there is no shortage and don't lie for rirs with IPS left.
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