arin representation

Timothy Morizot tmorizot at
Mon Mar 24 04:53:10 UTC 2014

Unless I misremember, everyone who receives a direct allocation from ARIN
and signs an RSA is automatically a member. It's not clear to me what
"owner of a /24 network" means in that context. (I don't recall if signing
an LRSA in and of itself also makes one a member, since by the time we had
signed an LRSA, we had long since received our direct IPv6 allocation under
an RSA.)

But perhaps Randy is looking for the number of /24 equivalents allocated to
legacy resource holders who haven't also received an IPv6 direct allocation
or other IPv4 direct allocation under an RSA?


On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Naslund, Steve <SNaslund at>wrote:

> Exactly right John.  I think the term "owned" is a problem here.
> It seems to me that the terms would correctly be "holder" or who the
> address space was issued to or "user" being the end user using that space.
> Wouldn't all of the holders be ARIN members unless grandfathered in?
> Steven Naslund
> Chicago IL
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Curran [mailto:jcurran at]
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 10:36 PM
> To: Randy Bush
> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
> Subject: Re: arin representation
> On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Randy Bush <randy at> wrote:
> > two questions:
> >
> >  o of the /24s in the arin region, what percentage are owned by arin
> >    members?
> Randy -
>   Happy to generate these - two questions for clarity.
> 1) Should we expand /16's and /8's into the corresponding number of /24's ?
>    (or do you only want those blocks issued originally as /24's to be
> counted)
> 2)  In terms of categories, we could go strictly with /24's held by ARIN
> members
>     versus /24's held by non-members (and resulting percentages); note
> that would
>     be predominantly ISPs since end-users assignments from ARIN are
> unlikely to be
>     members unless they specifically opted to join. Alternatively, we
> could provide
>     counts /24's under RSA, /24's under LRSA, and /24's
> legacy-no-agreement as the
>     three categories of counts desired (and each percentage of the total)
>     So, based on above, would you prefer the /24 space statistics as asked
>     (member/non-member) or rsa/lrsa/legacy-no-agreement?
> >  o of the address holders in the arin region, what percentage are arin
> >    members?
>   Will do.
> Thanks!
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO

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