misunderstanding scale

Sat Mar 22 15:47:33 UTC 2014

So two things here, Bryan...

First, there may be those that do not require IPv6 due to size. So what 
is YOUR big plan to connect all those on IPv4 to the rest of the IPv6 
world that has dropped IPv4 addresses.

Second, as a DO customer, I am now beginning to understand the culture 
and ideology over IPv6 at DO. IPv6 has been asked about since at least 
2012 with initial promises of 'Q3 2012 the 'Q4, now no one even wants to 
respond. With everyone else bringing native IPv6 on board, I see people 
starting to leave unless you change.

Additional support on my feeling of DO and IPv6, is DO's stance of 
directly not even allowing IPv6 tunnels to HE, SiXXs, or any of the 
other providers by specifically teliing them not to allow connections 
from your IPv4 address space.

Good luck on your IPv4 ride when none of your customers have anyone else 
to talk to.

Robert

Apologies to all other list members for the somewhat off topic rant.

On 03/22/2014 05:25 AM, Bryan Socha wrote:
> Fair point.   There are some situations that do need more than most, but
> aren't they the ones that should be on ipv6 already???????
>
> I know a few are shouldn't I be on ipv6 and that's fair too.   I'm
> plqnnning some speaking engagements to cover that.  Its not blind and
> ignoring.
>   On Mar 22, 2014 4:36 AM, "TJ" <trejrco at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Millions of IPs don't matter in the face of X billions of people, and
>> XX-XXX billions of devices - and this is just the near term estimate.
>> (And don't forget utilization efficiency  - Millions of IPs is not
>> millions of customers served.)
>>
>> Do IPv6.
>> /TJ
>>
>> On Mar 22, 2014 3:09 AM, "Bryan Socha" <bryan at digitalocean.com> wrote:
>>> As someone growing in the end of ipv4, its all fake.    Sure, the rirs
>> will
>>> run out, but that's boring.    Don't believe the fake auction sites.
>>> Fair price of IP at the end is $1 for bad Rep $2 for barely used, $3 for
>> no
>>> spam and $4 for legacy.    Stop the inflation.     Millions of IPS exist,
>>> there is no shortage and don't lie for rirs with IPS left.