How to catch a cracker in the US?

Fri Mar 14 04:14:00 UTC 2014

On Mar 13, 2014 7:37 PM, "Larry Sheldon" <LarrySheldon at cox.net> wrote:
>
> On 3/13/2014 8:22 AM, Sholes, Joshua wrote:
>>
>> On 3/13/14, 12:35 AM, "shawn wilson" <ag4ve.us at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A note on terminology - whether you know what you're doing, actually
break
>>> into a system, or obtain a thumb drive with data that you weren't
supposed
>>> to have - it has the same end so I'd refer to it by the same term -
>>> hacking. Trying to differentiate terms based on skill, target, or data
>>> type is kinda dumb.
>>
>>
>> If one came up in this field with a mentor who was old school, or if one
>> is old school oneself, one tends use the original (as I understand it)
>> definitions--a "cracker" breaks security or obtains data unlawfully, a
>> "hacker" is someone who likes ethically playing (in the "joyful
>> exploration" sense) with complicated systems.
>>
>> People who are culturally younger tend use "hacker", as you are doing,
for
>> the former and as far as I can tell no specific term for the latter.
>>
>> If you ask me, this is something of a cultural loss.
>
>
> Not sure I can agree with that.  I have been in this game for a very long
time, but for most of it in places where the world's population cleaved
neatly into two parts: "Authorized Users" who could be identified by the
facts that they had ID cards, Badges, and knew the door code; and
"trespassers" who were all others.
>
> Then you new kids came along and (pointlessly, in my opinion) divided the
later group into the two described above.
>

Sorry for my note. Didn't mean it to sidetrack the question (I probably
should've).

/me o_O