valley free routing?

Siegel, David David.Siegel at
Fri Mar 7 16:18:28 UTC 2014

Having been employed by a provider V in one such example of the below, I viewed it as a temporary, partial transit relationship.  Does such a situation meet Bill's original definition?

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Bush [mailto:randy at] 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 7:42 AM
To: William Herrin
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
Subject: Re: valley free routing?

once upon a time, provider A and provider P were having a peering war, and provider V provided valley transit for P's prefixes to A.  it was not meant to be seen publicly, but the traceroutes were posted to nanog, or maybe it was com-priv at the time.

this is far from the only time this has happened.


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