Next steps in extortion case - ideas?
Charles N Wyble
charles at thefnf.org
Mon Jun 30 16:35:51 UTC 2014
Sue him for slander?
Contact the US DOJ and request extortion charges be filed? I mean if someone was committing a crime against me, I'd certainly be in contact with law enforcement to have charges filed and a warrant out for arrest.
You shouldn't have called him. He has certainly changed his phone number. He also now most likely has your personal phone number.
Contact law enforcement. That's what you should of done instead of calling him. I'd also consult your attorney. Ironically enough , the person you contacted could potentially try and turn the tables on you. Did you record the telephone conversation?
On June 28, 2014 9:32:15 AM CDT, Markus <universe at truemetal.org> wrote:
>nothing operational here, but there are many smart minds on this list
>and people working for telcos, ISPs and law enforcement agencies, so
>maybe you are willing to give me some advice in the following case:
>There's an individual out there on the web that has been blackmailing
>hundreds of people and companies in a specific area of business for
>years. His scheme is: 1. Contact the alleged "debtor" via e-mail and
>inform him about an existing debt claim by a third party. 2. Offer the
>debtor a deadline to pay the debt and warn the debtor if he shouldn't
>pay he'll be prosecuted and his case will be "made public". 3. Once the
>deadline has elapsed, he'll publish completely false information made
>out of thin air on the web, in particular Facebook, Twitter, a blog, a
>website, including pictures of the debtor and serious accusations like
>"This debtor is a child molestor" or "This debtor is part of the mafia"
>and other crazy stuff that you can usually only see in movies. All of
>course with real names, company information (if applicable) and
>basically everything he can find out about the debtor. 4. Then, the
>individual hopes that the debtor will be intimidated because the debtor
>is afraid of the false information about him, which will show up on
>Google etc., and will finally pay to get this false information removed
>from the web.
>In all cases the published "background information" about the debtors
>false, made out of thin air, and over the top. Just the names and
>pictures are correct. Intentional slander in order to get the debtor to
>pay. If any of the published information was true, then every 2nd
>would be a child molestor and every other debtor part of the mafia.
>That individual is hiding his real identity really well, obviously, and
>he knows what he's doing. Domain hosted in Russia, taking good care his
>IP address won't show up in the mail headers, using false names and
>identities, phone numbers registered through some DID provider who
>doesn't collect personal information about the DID owner etc.
>I am one of the accused and had lots of false information about myself
>and my company published by him. This is why I started to have an
>interest to track his real identity down. I took 2 days out of my life
>and researched high and low and finally found his personal phone number
>along with a name, a picture of him and several possible addresses (in
>I cannot be sure that the name, picture and addresses are correct, but
>called him on his personal phone number and after having spoken with
>before under his false identity, I can confirm that it's the same
>(the voice is the same). He was quite surprised to say the least.
>In case it matters, according to a LRN lookup the number belongs to
>Omnipoint Communications, which is part of T-Mobile USA, I think.
>My idea is to somehow confirm his identity and confirm my research by
>matching the voice of the false identity (available from a message he
>left on my voicemail and also from his voicemail intro) to the real
>person. I'm thinking about hiring a private investigator in the US (I'm
>in Germany) to drive up to the addresses I can provide the PI with and
>find the person that matches the voice / maybe even the picture. The PI
>then must document the outcome in a way that it can be used in court.
>I'm wanting to go the PI route because it will be the fastest way to
>possibly gather evidence, I assume, as opposed to commissioning a
>who will then in turn contact law enforcement etc.
>Unfortunately I do not have the authority to access the personal data
>the person that pays the monthly bill for the phone number that I
>him on, otherwise that would be the fastest way I suppose. I spent
>for some pay-sites that do some reverse phone lookup and stuff like
>that, and although the information was helpful, I cannot be sure that
>My goal is to confirm his real identity/name and address in order to
>start a lawsuit and have a lawyer, or maybe even law enforcement,
>investigate this case and ultimately, put an end to his slander
>activities, not just for my case but for all hundreds before me and
>those which are to come in the future.
>Do you think the PI route makes sense? Any other recommendations? Your
>feedback in general?
>Thanks and sorry for so much text. :)
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