short, two part question ICANN Vs. The World

manning bill bmanning at
Tue Jun 24 07:30:26 UTC 2014

On 23June2014Monday, at 22:55, Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf at> wrote:

>> The question at hand is.. Do countries/businesses have to affiliate or
>> utilize any of those services provided by ICANN other than the assignment
>> of an IP address?  
> No.

	except for RFC 1918 and ULA space, which require no coordination whatsoever

>> And can you get away with LAN/CAN/MAN stand-alone systems [instead of utilizing DNS-via-ICANN]??
> Yes.
>> Example:
>> Is it legal to cut off those DNS systems and loop in backwards?  (instead
>> of bidirectional).  **  I don't want my city/schools/other systems hooked
>> into the World Wide Web. // someone let me know when you get a chance.
> Yes.  Sounds like you want private (discontiguous) network space.  There is no need to be a part of the internet if you don't want to be, but that desire does not prevent you in any way from utilizing internet "technology" discontiguously (ie, separate and apart from the Internet).

what does “loop in backwards” mean?

it is possible (and there are production systems) to “tap” the Internet and load/fill/examine DNS caches of Internet DNS traffic.   NSA and its industrial partners (like Farsight Security)
do this for a living.   there are many corporations that have built/use enclaved or walled garden networks for internal use that have no visibility to the Internet or its applications (like WWW).
Its not that hard to do… folks have been doing it for decades. 

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