Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion

Matthew Kaufman matthew at
Wed Jun 18 21:43:18 UTC 2014

My Apple TV appears to use IPv6, but since there's no UI for it (last I checked) I had to disable SLAAC on that subnet to keep it from trying to use my slow connection.

So in my book, "some" v6 support is actually worse than "none"

Matthew Kaufman

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On Jun 18, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at> wrote:

>> However, I also don't think consumer education is the answer:
>> Summary: Until it is perfectly clear why a consumer needs IPv6, and what
>> they need to do about it, consumer education will only cause fear and
>> frustration, which will not be helpful. This is a technology problem, not
>> a feature problem, and consumers shouldn't have to select which Internet
>> to be on.
>> Lee
> Short of consumer education, how do you expect to resolve the issue where $CONSUMER walks into $BIG_BOX_CE_STORE and says "I need a router, what's the cheapest one you have?"
> Whereupon $TEENAGER_MAKING_MINIMUM_WAGE who likely doesn't know DOCSIS 2 from DOCSIS 3, has no idea what IP actually is, and thinks that Data is an android from Star Trek says "Here, this Linksys thing is only $30."
> Unless/until we either get the stores to pull the IPv4-only stuff off their shelves or educate consumers, the continued deployment of additional incapable equipment will be a continuing problem. As bad as the situation is for cablemodems and residential gateways, at least there, an educated consumer can make a good choice. Now, consider DVRs, BluRay players, Receiver/Amplifiers, Televisions, etc. where there are, currently, no IPv6 capable choices available to the best of my knowledge.
> Owen

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