Carrier Grade NAT
cboyd at gizmopartners.com
Tue Jul 29 22:08:43 UTC 2014
On Jul 29, 2014, at 11:54 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu> <Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:42:31 -0500, Chris Boyd said:
>> There's probably going to be some interesting legal fallout from that
>> practice. As an ISP customer, I'd be furious to find out that my
>> communications had been intercepted due to the bad behavior of another user.
> See the various lawsuits against the NSA - the vast majority have been summarily
> dismissed because the plaintiffs couldn't produce evidence their communications
> had in fact been intercepted, and thus they didn't have standing to sue.
True, but there is a difference in this case, since I could probably find a way to do discovery of the warrant/subpoena that was delivered to the ISP--assuming it's not an NSL. I would assume that going into court with evidence of the warrant/subpoena would be sufficient to grant standing. Or the notice of intercepted communications that I've seen a few times would work too.
In $DAYJOB, we're all colo/cloud, so the stuff we get specifies a specific date. Have not come across any that specify a few seconds of time as another poster noted.
In any case IANAL, so who knows until the cases start showing up on the dockets.....
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