Many players make up application performance (was Re: Richard Bennett, NANOG posting, and Integrity)

William Herrin bill at
Tue Jul 29 16:45:02 UTC 2014

On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:33 AM, McElearney, Kevin
<Kevin_McElearney at> wrote:
> On 7/28/14, 5:35 PM, "Jim Richardson" <weaselkeeper at> wrote:
>> if <$IP_PROVIDER> throttles it specifically, rather
>>than throttling me to (x),I consider that fraud.
> While ISPs do play a big role in this, people tend to miss eyecandystore
> decisions (and business drivers) as a potential factors in isolated
> application performance issues.

Hi Kevin,

Network factors driving application performance issues are sometimes
tricky but once the root cause is found, assigning fault is rarely

When everyone agrees the problem link is at that magical place, a
mutually acceptable location where each network has been paid by their
respective customer to get the packets there, one network is willing
to swap those packets unconditionally and the other isn't, the fault
is not mysterious at all.

Bill Herrin

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