Starting a greenfield(ish) small (10k subs?) multihomed (two ASN) , dual stacked, wireless ISP - i can haz advice?

hayden paul.basov at gmail.com
Thu Jul 24 09:10:22 UTC 2014


Sorry, no feedback from me.. I have couple of questions though, how much licensing do you need to go through, to actually start a WISP?
Also, Kansas.. Are you concerned that you’ll have to compete with Google Fiber at some point?

On 23 Jul 2014, at 20:58, charles at thefnf.org wrote:

> Hey everybody,
> 
> So all this talk about monopolies, small ISPs vs the big bad netflix  , muni fiber etc etc has been interesting. Lots and lots of talk, lots of interesting links etc.
> 
> I'm an action/results oriented individual, and have been working on actually building out a grassroots ISP, instead of just talking about it. :)
> 
> Over the past year or so, I've been involved with an effort to launch a community ISP in the Kansas City MO area. It's got several towers up now and a decent amount of users. It's been funded by the community that it serves. Feel free to ask any questions you have about the details. It's an open network in all aspects (design, business model etc). It is intentionally designed/operated in such a way that all aspects can be disclosed.
> 
> We are now ready to take the next step and obtain an ASN and v6 space (also looks like we can get a /24 of v4 space as well).
> 
> What are the things that we should do before we get those resources? What should we do immediately after? What books/rfc/bcp should we be most familiar with?
> 
> As is typical of many small outfits, we have an incredibly high degree of software skill, and a limited budget which goes entirely to hardware.
> 
> This is a greenfield network. We've got Ubiquiti gear for the backbone. Running a mix of QMP routers with BMX6 as the IGP linked over AirOS l2 bridge "pseudowires". We'll be homed to two AS upstreams. Using pfSense as the WAN edge routers.
> 
> From all my reading of the list, it seems like key things to do in this scenario:
> 
> 1) Have full flow telemetry at all points to help with (D)DOS mitigation.
> 2) Do CGN in pools (so perhaps ~500 to 1k users behind each IP)?
> 3) Provision a /56 of v6 space to each end user. I was thinking of having the CPE with CeroWRT and be multi SSID with a /64 per. I'm interested in folks thoughts on this?
> 4) Upsell a public v4 address if someone requires it
> 5) Of course implement bcp38
> 
> I'm mostly interested in technical feedback. Business model etc type feedback is welcome as well, but not the primary purpose of this message. :)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Charles Wyble
> CTO Free Network Foundation



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