Muni Fiber and Politics

Mon Jul 21 21:42:08 UTC 2014

I'd rather ask Adobe, since their peer-to-peer transport (and layers 
above) has been dual-stacked since it was first designed.

Matthew Kaufman

On 7/21/2014 1:24 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> Ask Skype just how easy it is to do that with a dual-stacked service.
>
> Owen
>
> On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:29 , Jason Iannone <jason.iannone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Seems like as good at time as any for Netflix to go distributed peer to peer.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Jay Ashworth <jra at baylink.com> wrote:
>>> Is anyone else cynical enough to say FiOS going symmetrical is an attempt to
>>> blunt the pro-NetFlix argument on that point?
>>> - jra
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On July 21, 2014 12:46:27 PM EDT, Jason Iannone <jason.iannone at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> There was a muni case in my neck of the woods a couple of years ago.
>>>> Comcast spent an order of magnitude more than the municipality but
>>>> still lost.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, follow the money.  "Blackburn’s largest career donors are ..
>>>> PACs affiliated with AT&T ... ($66,750) and Comcast ... ($36,600). ...
>>>> Blackburn has also taken $56,000 from the National Cable &
>>>> Telecommunications Association."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.muninetworks.org/content/media-roundup-blackburn-amendment-lights-newswires
>>>>
>>>> In other news, FIOS has gone symmetrical.
>>>>
>>>> http://newscenter.verizon.com/corporate/news-articles/2014/07-21-fios-upload-speed-upgrade/
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Jay Ashworth <jra at baylink.com> wrote:
>>>>> Over the last decade, 19 states have made it illegal for municipalities
>>>>> to own fiber networks -- encouraged largely, I am told, by Verizon and
>>>>> other cable companies/MSOs[1].
>>>>>
>>>>> Verizon, of course, isn't doing any new FiOS deployments, per a 2010
>>>>> press release[2].
>>>>>
>>>>> FCC Chair Tom Wheeler has been making noises lately that he wants the
>>>>> FCC
>>>>> to preempt the field on this topic, making such deployments legal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Congressional Republicans think that's a bad idea:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.vox.com/2014/7/20/5913363/house-republicans-and-obamas-fcc-are-at-war-over-city-owned-internet
>>>>>
>>>>> [ and here's the backgrounder on the amendment:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/washington/blackburn-bill-would-block-fcc-preemption/132468
>>>>> ]
>>>>>
>>>>> While I generally try to avoid bringing up topics on NANOG that are
>>>>> political;
>>>>> this one seems to be directly in our wheelhouse, and unavoidably
>>>>> political.
>>>>> My apologies in advance; let's all try to be grownups, shall we?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -- jra
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/hundreds-of-cities-are-wired-with-fiberbut-telecom-lobbying-keeps-it-unused
>>>>> [2]
>>>>> https://secure.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Again-Confirms-FiOS-Expansion-is-Over-118949
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jay R. Ashworth
>>>>> Baylink
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