Inevitable death, was Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
khelms at zcorum.com
Mon Jul 14 23:32:36 UTC 2014
While I understand your point _and_ I agree that in most cases an ISP
should have an ASN. Having said that, I work with multiple operators
around the US that have exactly one somewhat economical choice for
connectivity to the rest of the Internet. In that case having a ASN is
nice, but serves little to no practical purpose. For clarity's sake all 6
of the ones I am thinking about specifically have more than 5k broadband
I continue to vehemently disagree with the notion that ASN = ISP since
many/most of the ASNs represent business networks that have nothing to do
with Internet access.
Vice President of Technology
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Matthew Petach <mpetach at netflight.com>
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 1:42 PM, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com>
> > > On Jul 14, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Matthew Petach <mpetach at netflight.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Brett's concerns seem to center around his
> > > ability to be cost-competitive with the big
> > > guys in his area...which implies there *are*
> > > big guys in his area to have to compete with.
> > He 's running wireless links, from web and prior info as I recall. His
> > key business seems to be outside the cable tv / DSL wire loop ranges from
> > wire centers. The bigger services seem to have fiber into Laramie, and
> > Brett seems to have fiber to that Denver exchange pointlet .
> > Why he's not getting fiber to a bigger exchange point or better transit
> > unclear.
> > There are bandwidth reseller / BGP / interconnect specialist ISPs out
> > there who live to fix these things, if there's anything like a viable
> > customer base...
> Ah--right, that was the genesis of my rant about
> "if you don't have an ASN, you don't exist".
> He'd first have to get an ASN before he could
> engage in getting a different upstream transit,
> or connect to different exchange points, etc.
> As much as people insisted you can be an
> ISP without an AS number, I will note that
> it's much, MUCH harder, to the point where
> the ARIN registration fees for the AS number
> would quickly be recouped by the cost savings
> of being able to shop for more competitive
> connectivity options.
> > George William Herbert
> > Sent from my iPhone
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