Verizon Public Policy on Netflix

Mike Hale at
Sun Jul 13 23:32:04 UTC 2014

Dude.  Netflix doesn't want you to do help its service.

Your customers want you to do that.
On Jul 13, 2014 4:03 PM, "Brett Glass" <nanog at> wrote:

> At 10:25 AM 7/13/2014, Charles Gucker wrote:
> >ALL ISPs are in the business of providing access to
> >the Internet.    If you feel the need to rebel, then I suggest you
> >look at creative ways to increase revenue from your customers,
> My customers do not want me to "creatively" find ways to extract
> additional money from them so as to cover expenses that Netflix
> should be covering. Nor do they want me to subsidize Netflix
> subscribers from the fees from non-Netflix subscribers. They
> want to pay a fair price for their Internet that does not include
> paying ransom to third parties.
> We currently provide that: we guarantee each subscriber a certain
> minimum capacity  to the Internet exchange at 1850 Pearl Street
> in Denver (to which Netflix does not directly connect) with a certain
> maximum duty cycle. But we can't guarantee the performance of a specific
> third party service such as Netflix. If Netflix wants us to do that,
> it is going to have to pay us, as it pays Comcast. That's only fair,
> because we would be doing something special just for it -- something
> which costs money.
> If Netflix tries to use its market power to harm ISPs, or to smear
> us via nasty on-screen messages as it has been smearing Verizon, ISPs have
> no choice but to react. One way we could do this -- and I'm strongly
> considering it -- is to start up a competing streaming service that
> IS friendly to ISPs. It would use the minimum possible amount of
> bandwidth, make proper use of caching, and -- most importantly --
> actually PAY Internet service providers, instead of sapping their
> resources, by allowing them to sell it and keep a portion of the fee.
> This would provide an automatic, direct, per-customer reimbursement
> to the ISP for the cost of bandwidth. ISPs would sign on so fast
> that such a service could BURY Netflix in short order.
> --Brett Glass

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