Verizon Public Policy on Netflix

George Herbert george.herbert at
Sat Jul 12 10:47:56 UTC 2014

> On Jul 11, 2014, at 10:31 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at> wrote:
> On Jul 11, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Randy Bush <randy at> wrote:
>>>> And, for the record, it's pretty widely acknowledge that "The World" 
>>>> (Barry Shein) was the world's first commercial ISP - offering shell 
>>>> access in 1989, and at some point started offering PPP dial-up 
>>>> services.  As I recall, they were a UUnet POP.
>>> yep.  and uunet and psi were hallucinations.  can we please not rewrite
>>> well-known history?
>>> or are you equating shell access with isp?  that would be novel.  unix
>>> shell != internet.
>> btw, not do denigrate what barry did.  a commercial unix bbs connected
>> to the real internet was significant.  the left coasties were doing free
>> stuff, the well, community memory, ...  and barry created a viable bbs
>> commercial service which still survives (i presume).  a significant
>> achievement.
>> randy
> Not to take away from Barry, but around that same time, some of us left coasts were also helping to build Netcom as a viable commercial entity providing shell and later PPP and dedicated line access (DS0, T1).
> Owen

...and CRL, and shortly after Netcom came Scruznet, and  ...

(Still giggling at how many times CRL got the intersection of Market/Geary/Kearny dug up in the early 90s bringing fiber in...).

George William Herbert
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