Verizon Public Policy on Netflix

Owen DeLong owen at
Sat Jul 12 05:31:39 UTC 2014

On Jul 11, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Randy Bush <randy at> wrote:

>>> And, for the record, it's pretty widely acknowledge that "The World" 
>>> (Barry Shein) was the world's first commercial ISP - offering shell 
>>> access in 1989, and at some point started offering PPP dial-up 
>>> services.  As I recall, they were a UUnet POP.
>> yep.  and uunet and psi were hallucinations.  can we please not rewrite
>> well-known history?
>> or are you equating shell access with isp?  that would be novel.  unix
>> shell != internet.
> btw, not do denigrate what barry did.  a commercial unix bbs connected
> to the real internet was significant.  the left coasties were doing free
> stuff, the well, community memory, ...  and barry created a viable bbs
> commercial service which still survives (i presume).  a significant
> achievement.
> randy

Not to take away from Barry, but around that same time, some of us left coasts were also helping to build Netcom as a viable commercial entity providing shell and later PPP and dedicated line access (DS0, T1).


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