Neighborhood mesh statistical multiplexing

Patrick W. Gilmore patrick at
Mon Jan 27 17:03:38 UTC 2014

On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:58 , Jay Ashworth <jra at> wrote:
> From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick at>

>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 16:04 , Jay Ashworth <jra at> wrote:
>>> I wonder if they'll break BCP 38... or vice-versa...
>> As long as Telefonica customers only use other Telefonica links within
>> WiFi range, Telefonica can ensure it will have no effect on BCP38.
>> Worst case, I can "ddos" the guy in the next apartment by spoofing his
>> address. Best case, they ensure the BeWifi software disallows such
>> things.
>> And I don't see other broadband networks allowing Telefonica customers
>> to ride their links.
>> I also wonder why Telefonica would do this as opposed to telling
>> people to upgrade their DSL?
> Unless I misread the piece, Pat, they *do* intend for customers to 
> mesh non-Telefonica links, which is half of your answer.

I guess we read it differently.

They even mention "Telefonica is currently looking towards developing economies and its huge customer base".

Finally, assuming they ask someone else to do this, can you imagine another network saying "sure, use my DSL link to make your customer happier..."?

> "All our customers are at max rate for their distance" is probably the
> other half.

Thought about that, but they discuss customers on different tariffs.

It might be useful when everyone is limited to 128 Kbps or something.

> I was making the former assumption in my musing.

You know what you do when you make an assumption, right? You make an ASS out of U and MPTION. :)


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