Followup: Survey results for the ARIN RPA

John Curran jcurran at
Mon Dec 8 19:43:18 UTC 2014

On Dec 8, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk at<mailto:rubensk at>> wrote:

One could easily presume the ARIN region RPKI deployment statistics are
lower as a result of the RPA situation (and no doubt that it part of the
issue), but as noted earlier, it's unlikely to be the full story since
we also have a region (APNIC) where RPKI deployment also rather low that
and yet does not have these RPA legal entanglements.

It was suggested earlier that this may be due to a combination of factors
(education, promotion) beyond the RPA legal issues that are now being
worked - so that will also need to be addressed once the RPA is resolved.

Are the US litigation risks that much higher than other jurisdictions so that ARIN needs to take a different approach than other RIRs ? If they are, perhaps a confederation design instead of centralized one would help scatter those risks ?

Rubens -

   It is true that US has an abundance of litigation, and while this doesn't require
   a different approach than other regions, it does often mean that we're far more
   conservative in both technical and legal approaches initially.   ARIN's RPA is
   a typical example, in that it has allowed us to rollout the service in a timely
   manner that would not have otherwise been possible.   Now that there is
   some operational experience, it's possible to review the experience and
   see if a more relaxed risk posture can be accommodated.


John Curran
President and CEO

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