Phasing out of copper

Joly MacFie joly at
Wed Dec 3 03:23:57 UTC 2014

Invoke Kushnick's Law

* 'A regulated company will always renege on promises to provide public
benefits tomorrow in exchange for regulatory and financial benefits today.'*

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei <
jfmezei_nanog at> wrote:

> On 14-12-02 21:16, Owen DeLong wrote:
> > Depends on your desired outcome and goals. However…
> Context: Canadian incumbents deny to the regulator that they have
> intentions to turn off copper. (but to shareholders, openly say they
> will shut it donw, howveer, they plan only to shutdown active equipment
> and leave copper in the poles. Their fibre is hung off the same steel
> support line as copper).
> One reason is that by pretending that copper is here to stay and is
> competitive, they hope to convicne CRTC that mandating wholesale access
> to FTTP is not necessary.
> >
> > it makes more sense to explain to regulators why maintaining copper once
> sufficient FTTP adoption
> > is complete is foolhearty and a waste of money.
> Yeah, that is the way I am spinning it. (hey, I learn about spin from
> the best - the canadian incumbents :-)
> > If you’re trying to preserve access to dry copper for some reason,
> I am the only one in the whole proceeding who is advocating for the
> earliest possible widthdrawal fo copper.  The earlier they can remove
> irt, the easier it is for them to justify the investment, and the less
> reasons they have for preventing access to FTTP.
> The confirmation from someone else in the thread that Comcast stops
> selling access to copper once FTTP is up is a good point to make.
> I am up on Thursday morning. Am second to last to speak, so hopefully I
> can make a good impression. (this is for round two, first round finished
> today).

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