Muni Fiber and Politics

Leo Bicknell bicknell at
Sat Aug 2 13:47:46 UTC 2014

On Aug 2, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Vlade Ristevski <vristevs at> wrote:

> I might be misunderstanding this, but are you guys saying 10G Internet access to a tier 1 costs around $6,000 a month? I ask because I run a network for a small college and the best price I could get on 1Gbps Internet is about $5,500 a month with the fiber loop included which itself costs $2000-$2500.    Or are you guys discussing a different type connection?
> The quotes I got were from Cogent, Lightpath, Level 3, Verizon ($8,000)  and I think even ATT a few years back. I'm out in the NJ suburbs about 30 miles from Manhattan. If there is a cheaper way to get good bandwidth, I'm all ears. We're in Mahwah , NJ.

I think a 10GE for $6,000 in bandwidth charges is possible, if you meet the provider.  What that means is if you are in an Equinix, Coresite, Telehouse, or other sort of carrier neutral colocation point, and you're willing to make the cross connect appear at the providers cage, you can get bandwidth for that price.  Basically it's the price when the provider has to do zero other work, already has a large pop, and is selling large wholesale chunks.

Add in a local loop, cost for a smaller pop they have to maintain, engineering and so on and your price for 1GE 30 miles away from such places seems perfectly reasonable to me.

It's kind of the difference between driving your pickup to the quarry to get a truck load of sand, vrs buying prepackaged sand at the local home improvement store.

       Leo Bicknell - bicknell at - CCIE 3440
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