BGPMON Alert Questions

Christopher Morrow morrowc.lists at
Thu Apr 3 15:13:40 UTC 2014

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at> wrote:
> On Thursday, April 03, 2014 03:55:11 PM Christopher Morrow
> wrote:
>> I'm going to guess:
>>   1) who's going to pay for the filtering setup work?
> Well, your customers are paying you to ensure they don't get
> cut off due to your negligence.

I think you mean they are paying me to carry their bits across the network...
and they are paying me to do it with minimal hassle to THEM... telling
me prefixes to add to their list is hassle.

> You also don't want to become a "watch-out-for-that-one"
> peer within the community.

sure... not sure how much that matters to higher-ups? there's no such
thing as bad PR, right?

> But, perhaps those two ideals are not significant motivation
> for change :-\.

apparently they are not.

>>   2) we have always done it this way... why change?
> This is probably a more endemic issue of our industry, where
> operators find it hard to keep up with the times (there is
> no shortage of "-bis" or BCP documents) through actual
> useful implementation (BCP-38) vs. talk (SDN hype).
> In the case of nailing routing filters for customers, one
> thought that comes to mind is if your organization is large
> enough, throw a warm body at the issue. There are lots of
> interns or folk you can hire on a temporary basis to focus
> on cleaning all this up, and getting the NOC trained and

there's a salient point about training time and internal systems
complexity to keep in mind here as well :(

> clued up on the new strategy. The new strategy is not just
> shiny, it could actually save you loss of customers and
> community respect.


> But that's just me...

it's not just you.

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