iOS 7 update traffic

Fri Sep 20 09:33:53 UTC 2013

Just as a note.

On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Brandon Galbraith wrote:

> 1) Rate limit the software update download ("Us")
> 
> 2) Have device OS download the update in the background, and be resilient
> to failures with retries ("Manufacturer")
> 
Apple already does this in the iTunes update the ios device mode.

> 3) Don't present the update notification to the user until the update blob
> is already cached on the device ("Manufacturer")
> 
Apple also already does this.  However, manual checks/updates can be done. When there is so much buzz on the news and given Apple customers zeal a large percentage manually invoke the update.

> Only in a perfect world though.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:49 PM, joel jaeggli <joelja at bogus.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/19/13 3:29 PM, Warren Bailey wrote:
>>> Your software updates (you meaning a user of the Internet) should not
>> affect my experience. I'm not advocating we go back to 5.25 floppies and
>> never look back. I'm asking..
>>> 
>>> Is there a way for a COMPUTER and PHONE manufacturer to distribute their
>> software without destroying most last mile connectivity?
>>> 
>>> Who else has had traffic surges like this?
>> 
>> Flash traffic occurs, sometimes people fly planes into things, sometimes
>> nuclear reactors melt down, earthquakes or hurricanes occur  or cables
>> are segmented due to underwater landslides. and what infrastructure that
>> is left shifts abruptly from terrestrial to sattelite or gets droppped
>> on the floor. the best you can ask for on an instantanious basis is
>> graceful degredation under load.
>> 
>> this happens to not be weather.so maybe you can do something about it.
>> but ultimately a certain number of bytes have to be transfered and given
>> the architecture, the flash was driven by the consumer and not by
>> software automation, if we want the later to control it consumer choice
>> has to be taken out of the loop, which may or may not be palatable.
>> 
>>> And who else has a Nanog strike team coming in screaming buy more
>> bandwidth? ;)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mobile Device.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Ryan Harden <hardenrm at uchicago.edu>
>>> Date: 09/19/2013 3:04 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>> To: Jeroen van Aart <jeroen at mompl.net>
>>> Cc: "<nanog at nanog.org>" <nanog at nanog.org>
>>> Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen at mompl.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 09/19/2013 12:06 PM, Ryan Harden wrote:
>>>>> As a side note, how are some of you not aware of this? This has
>> happened with every single Apple OS update since the iPhone was released in
>> 2007.
>>>> 
>>>> The difference is there are now a "couple" more million devices out
>> there than there were in 2007. And in 2007 there was just the one phone,
>> now you have tablets and what have you.
>>> 
>>> The effect has been relatively the same regardless of how many iDevices
>> there are. Network Operators have seen spikes during Apple OS releases
>> since they started. The only leeway I'll give you is that the original
>> iPhone only supported 802.11b. With .11n and someday .11ac, the ability for
>> these devices to consume data at a faster rate is also increasing.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> This isn't a new phenomenon. I realize some of you are too cool for
>> Apple
>>>> 
>>>> Lame low ball remark, however I thought it was the opposite,
>> Apple==coolness?
>>> 
>>> This was in no way meant to be a lowball remark. But it doesn't take
>> much searching to find people exclaiming how they have zero Apple devices
>> or how they don't pay attention to Apple's "iJunk". I assumed (probably
>> mistakenly) that the lack of knowing this is going to happen roughly 2-3
>> times a year was due to being 'too cool' to keep up with the stuff Apple
>> puts out.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jeroen
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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