[liberationtech] Brazil Looks to Break from U.S.-Centric Internet

Wed Sep 18 17:04:54 UTC 2013

LOL, we'll move the taps one layer down ...

-J

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:

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> From: Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net>
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> On Sep 18, 2013, at 8:28 AM, David Johnson <David.Johnson at aljazeera.net>
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> > Interesting ... but is this even possible?
> >
> http://world.time.com/2013/09/18/brazil-looks-to-break-from-u-s-centric-internet/
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> Well, there are a bunch of different concepts being discussed.  The
> primary one is localization of routing, which isn't just possible, it's
> best-practice, and something Brazil has been doing an excellent job of
> already for quite a few years.  If you look at
> https://pch.net/applications/ixpdir/summary/ you'll see that they've got
> 23 active exchanges, which puts them second in the world after the U.S.,
> with 77% annualized growth, compared to 10% in the U.S.  If you look at the
> Brazil section of https://pch.net/ixpdir you'll see that almost all of
> that growth has been occurring since they made it an explicit policy goal
> in 2008, and began aggressively implementing IXP best-practices.
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> At a governance level, Brazil is divided.  The CGI, which decides and
> implements domestic Internet policy, is the agency responsible for all this
> growth and best-practices-following.  As such, they've been largely aligned
> with OECD-country and Internet interests.  The Brazilian federal
> government, on the other hand, sets foreign policy, interacts with the ITU,
> et cetera.  And so although it has no appreciable influence over what
> happens _within_ the country, it's what's seen by other national
> governments in diplomatic circles.  In Internet governance, Brazil tends
> toward this Brazil-India-South Africa axis, which doesn't particularly
> align with the Internet or OECD countries, unless by accident.  This is the
> area that Internet folks are most worried about, since those three
> countries are second-tier thought-leaders in the ITU, and can swing a lot
> of developing-country votes in their respective regions.  So Brazil is, in
> many ways, the U.S.' opposite: they do the right thing domestically, but
> say the wrong thing internationally.
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