The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back

Michael Thomas mike at
Fri Sep 6 19:24:51 UTC 2013

On 09/06/2013 12:14 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 12:03:56PM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote:
>> On 09/06/2013 11:19 AM, Nicolai wrote:
>>> That's true -- it is far easier to subvert email than most other
>>> services, and in the case of email we probably need a wholly new
>>> protocol.
>> Uh, a first step might be to just turn on [START]TLS. We're not using the
>> tools that have been implemented and deployed for a decade at least.

Of course:
> Received: from ( [])
>          (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
>          (Client did not present a certificate)

doesn't instill a lot of confidence :) It's better than nothing though.


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