The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back

Sam Moats sam at
Fri Sep 6 14:23:11 UTC 2013

I don't suggest a riot. I do believe in the rule of law, as a member of 
a democracy
I need to accept that I will not always agree with the laws that are 
enacted. If we
lived in China or somewhere else where there was no method to change 
laws that were
unfair or unjust then yea I would support the civil disobiedence 
approach whole heartedly

I do love my country, always have and I firmly believe in the concept 
of government
by the consent of the governed. These rules were made by the people we 
choose, perhaps
these were bad choices but they were are collective choices.

Perhaps we should educate our user base so that in the future they make 
better choices.
I suggest in an only half snarky way we just push out the standard DOD 
warning banner
to them all. Since it now seems to apply...

Below is a sample banner (IS is information System)

By using this IS (which includes any device attached to this IS), you 
consent to the following conditions:

-The USG routinely intercepts and monitors communications on this IS 
for purposes including, but not limited to, penetration testing, COMSEC 
monitoring, network operations and defense, personnel misconduct (PM), 
law enforcement (LE), and counterintelligence (CI) investigations.

-At any time, the USG may inspect and seize data stored on this IS.

-Communications using, or data stored on, this IS are not private, are 
subject to routine monitoring, interception, and search, and may be 
disclosed or used for any USG authorized purpose.

-This IS includes security measures (e.g., authentication and access 
controls) to protect USG interests--not for your personal benefit or 

-Notwithstanding the above, using this IS does not constitute consent 
to PM, LE or CI investigative searching or monitoring of the content of 
privileged communications, or work product, related to personal 
representation or services by attorneys, psychotherapists, or clergy, 
and their assistants. Such communications and work product are private 
and confidential.


On 2013-09-06 10:14, Ishmael Rufus wrote:
> So when do we riot? I've been waiting for months now.
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Jorge Amodio <jmamodio at> 
> wrote:
>> > > The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it 
>> back
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Who is we ?
>> >
>> > If you bothered to read the 1st paragraph you would know.
>> >
>> I read all of it, the original article and other references to it.
>> IMHO, there is no amount of engineering that can fix stupid people 
>> doing
>> stupid things on both sides of the stupid lines.
>> By trying to fix what is perceived an engineering issue (seems that 
>> China
>> doing the same or worse for many years wasn't an engineering 
>> problem) the
>> only result you will obtain is a budget increase on the 
>> counter-engineering
>> efforts, that may represent a big chunk of money that can be used in 
>> more
>> effective ways where it is really needed.
>> My .02
>> -J

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