verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

Fri Oct 4 17:22:54 UTC 2013

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Gordon Cook <cook at cookreport.com> wrote:
> Hi chris
>
> really appreciate the help from ALL you guys

sure thing.

> does what you just said mean that non reachability for version customer  may mean a config problem for a small bloc and not something intentional??

that's probably hard to say... I do know that:

 5  0.xe-9-2-0.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.30)  6.457 ms  6.821 ms
0.xe-11-2-1.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.42.2)  5.932 ms
 6  telefonica-gw.customer.alter.net (152.179.50.114)  7.182 ms  5.433
ms  5.431 ms
 7  Xe4-1-6-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.123.145)
47.271 ms  48.381 ms Te0-7-0-5-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
(94.142.126.182)  50.290 ms

telefonica is a 'customer' not a 'peer' of 701, based on their
connectivity. This means that telefonica has to tell 701: "Yo, I need
you to accept routes for x, y, z, ktnxbi!'

knowing the normal (well, 5yrs ago) config for customers of 701, I
don't expect there'd be special handling of this prefix either... so I
suspect either no one told 701 to accept this, or telefonica pouched
it at the handoff :(

If they didn't do that, these routes wouldn't be accepted.
If telefonica botched some filter on their side (see the comment about
prepending).

It's fairly sure though that the prefix isn't 'blackholed'... since
it's everything in the /22 not just the local /32 or /24. Bill
Herrin's on target as well, it's really hard to say from here :)

-chris

>
> On Oct 4, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> err.. nothing in the /24 is reachable from 701's perspective (so it
>> seems)... so I'd suspect that there's a routing problem with the /24,
>> in fact the surrounding /24's also seem to be having the same problem.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Miles Fidelman
>> <mfidelman at meetinghouse.net> wrote:
>>> Also inaccessible from FIOS Boston:
>>> new-host-2:~ mfidelman$ traceroute floksociety.org
>>> traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
>>> 1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.534 ms  0.853 ms 0.724 ms
>>> 2  l100.bstnma-vfttp-84.verizon-gni.net (96.252.37.1)  7.619 ms 6.855 ms
>>> 7.304 ms
>>> 3  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  10.482 ms !N *^C
>>>
>>> But just fine from our datacenter via xo.net.  And the web server is up - at
>>> least to a text browser (Lynx).
>>>
>>> Also via Verizion cell network (Boston area).
>>>
>>> Some kind of routing table glitch or peering issue, perhaps?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> William Herrin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Gordon Cook <cook at cookreport.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte
>>>>>> packets
>>>>>>  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
>>>>>>  2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms
>>>>>> 17.508 ms  7.316 ms
>>>>>>  3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.482 ms
>>>>>> !N *
>>>>>>  4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  7.101
>>>>>> ms !N
>>>>>>  5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.239 ms
>>>>>> !N *
>>>>>>  6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823 ms
>>>>>> !N *  8.846 ms !N
>>>>
>>>> Inaccessible via FIOS Washington DC too:
>>>>
>>>> traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
>>>> traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte
>>>> packets
>>>>  1  L300.WASHDC-VFTTP-91.verizon-gni.net (173.73.47.1)  1.804 ms
>>>> 1.595 ms  1.562 ms
>>>>  2  G0-6-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.216.250)  5.321 ms !N
>>>> * *
>>>>
>>>> Correctly accessible via Cox, Qwest, Sprint and others, but the
>>>> network path is really slow and really long.
>>>>
>>>> The border is consistently with telefonica-wholesale.net and then
>>>> telconet.net. Beyond the border there are badly behaving routers,
>>>> including ones configured with RFC 1918 addresses. The addressable
>>>> routers are reachable via Verizon, just not the last hop.
>>>>
>>>> traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
>>>> traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 60 byte
>>>> packets
>>>>  1  sark.dirtside.com (70.182.189.216)  0.708 ms  0.689 ms  0.569 ms
>>>>  2  10.1.192.1 (10.1.192.1)  9.957 ms  9.874 ms  9.725 ms
>>>>  3  ip68-100-3-49.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.49)  9.631 ms  9.507 ms  9.424
>>>> ms
>>>>  4  ip68-100-3-113.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.113)  9.310 ms  9.226 ms
>>>> 9.140 ms
>>>>  5  mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.net (68.100.0.145)  9.111 ms  9.019
>>>> ms  8.929 ms
>>>>  6  68.1.4.139 (68.1.4.139)  8.791 ms *  5.981 ms
>>>>  7  209.48.42.61 (209.48.42.61)  5.748 ms  11.361 ms  10.948 ms
>>>>  8  vb2000d2.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net (207.88.13.66)  58.454 ms
>>>> 52.415 ms  52.421 ms
>>>>  9  te-3-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net (207.88.12.9)  60.543 ms
>>>> 60.397 ms  60.378 ms
>>>> 10  te-3-0-0.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net (207.88.12.2)  58.211 ms  58.407
>>>> ms  58.392 ms
>>>> 11  * * *
>>>> 12  206.111.5.226.ptr.us.xo.net (206.111.5.226)  53.378 ms  49.080 ms
>>>> 47.435 ms
>>>> 13  Xe-8-1-0-0-grtmiabr3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.125.54)
>>>> 76.006 ms Xe8-0-2-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
>>>> (94.142.119.38)  60.181 ms
>>>> Xe13-1-4-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.43.109)
>>>> 125.888 ms
>>>> 14  Te-0-2-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.119.233)
>>>>  67.105 ms Te0-1-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
>>>> (213.140.37.77)  63.435 ms
>>>> Xe5-1-8-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.36.89)
>>>> 141.873 ms
>>>> 15  Xe9-3-0-0-gramiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.197)
>>>> 62.450 ms 176.52.249.245 (176.52.249.245)  66.665 ms 176.52.249.241
>>>> (176.52.249.241)  64.668 ms
>>>> 16  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  118.619 ms  118.057 ms  117.934 ms
>>>> 17  * * *
>>>> 18  * * *
>>>> 19  * * *
>>>> 20  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  122.586 ms
>>>> 120.967 ms  115.040 ms
>>>> 21  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  122.801 ms
>>>> 125.164 ms  119.520 ms
>>>> 22  * * *
>>>> 23  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  253.710 ms  246.684 ms  244.845 ms
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
>>> In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra
>>>
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