Ray Soucy rps at
Mon Nov 25 14:32:10 UTC 2013

It looks like Brocade has swapped out Quagga with IP Infusion's non-free
version, ZebOS.  They also decided to abandon the FOSS Vyatta Core project.

It's really unfortunate, as the FOSS project is the only reason I was
interested in paying the licensing.  It was attractive to have Vyatta Core
as a no-cost option for small things, and the subscription edition for
higher visibility devices.  Now that they've moved away from having any
FOSS project, I'm not really inclined to invest in the product, I'm sure
there are others who feel the same way.

There is a group of people who were active in the Vyatta community trying
to get a fork of it going under the name VyOS,

As far as Ubiquiti, it looks like about 2 years ago they actually hired a
few people from Vyatta, Inc. to work on EdgeOS.  So development of EdgeOS
has continued [and likely will continue] independently, though it looks
like at least a few people from UBNT are interested in seeing VyOS happen
and participating on their own time.  I know one of the early goals for
VyOS is to get the documentation up on their Wiki and have a release of the
current Vyatta Core with the name swapped out as a starting point.

I really hope the VyOS project can get off the ground.  If any developers
familiar with maintaining Debian-based distributions are on-list, I know
the project is looking for people to help.

On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Rob Seastrom <rs at> wrote:

> Ray Soucy <rps at> writes:
> > Pricing just popped up for the new EdgeRouter PRO last night and I was
> > pretty blown away:
> >
> > $360
> >
> > For a device with 2 SFP ports, and 2M PPS.  That is music to my ears
> since
> > we do a lot of dark fiber around the state even for smaller locations.
>  I'm
> > pretty excited to get one of these and see how they perform.
> Me too...  Will probably pony up for one as soon as I can.
> I haven't tried out their software in a more than trivial
> configuration, and haven't gotten IPv4 policy routing working (though
> I understand it's in there now).  An ER-Lite tunnels IPv6 fine,
> haven't tried it with PD...
> > I feel like I'm at the risk for becoming a UBNT fanboy.  Does anyone have
> > any qualified horror stories about EdgeMAX or UniFi?  Everything I've
> been
> > able to find has been for nonsense configurations like complaining about
> > trying to to OSPF over WiFi ... Who does that?
> They are an unmitigated disaster at hitting dates and calibrating
> expectations.  The EdgeRouter Pro has been on their web site for well
> over a year.  The EdgeRouter Carrier (with 10ge SFP+) has disappeared
> from their web site altogether.
> I'm concerned about the Vyatta CLI docs and their continuing
> availability.  Someone from Brocade should make some public statements
> to set our collective minds at ease.
> That said I've been reasonably happy with the UBNT stuff (mostly older
> outdoor gear) that I've bought over the past several years.  It's held
> up well.  Just don't count on the availability of anything that you
> can't order up from your favorite VAR and have it show up in the
> FedEx.
> -r

Ray Patrick Soucy
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University of Maine System

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