[c-nsp] DNS amplification

David Conrad drc at virtualized.org
Tue Mar 19 18:44:12 UTC 2013


Chris,

On Mar 19, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> I also think we don't have to do this 'today', but getting the right
> plans in place to migrate in the right direction seems like an ok plan
> too.

+1

For that plan I personally like the idea of the layer of indirection separating identification from location as I see it having lots of benefits like scalability, site multi-homing without BGP-fu, provider independence, etc. albeit at a complexity/performance cost.  The advantage I see in LISP(-like) approaches is that it pushes that cost out to the edge where all you need to do is give your hamsters vitamins, leaving the core untouched.

>> In the US alone there are 6M SMEs with payrolls (21M without). Perhaps router vendors should adopt Doritos motto: "crunch all you want, we'll make more"...
> 
> no doubt, this is marshall's numbers (or a form of them) from ~7+ yrs ago now?

I suppose from the same source (http://www.census.gov/econ/smallbus.html)

> anyway, we seem to mostly agree, which again makes me realize I'm not crazy...

The more likely alternative is that we both are.

> but I stil have wine and sandwiches, come along with jabley and I?

I'll bring the deep fried hamster.

Regards,
-drc





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