huawei (ZTE too)

Thu Jun 13 20:01:03 UTC 2013

Apologies for making what could be construed as an off topic, political
comment, but doesn't everyone in the USA know by now that the PRC
represents a dagger aimed at the economic and national security of America?
A military invasion in slow motion as it were?

David

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>wrote:

> On 6/13/13 1:35 PM, Warren Bailey wrote:
> > They are a state controlled company. You think the PRC's party members
> dont
> > call the shots? I've been to Beijing for work.. I can assure you the
> > government has a very known presence through the private community. Often
> > times, graduates of their state run colleges enter the "private" sector
> to
> > help their collective needs. China is an odd place, but in my opinion
> often
> > they are underestimated. Look at their stealth plane, that's a good
> > starting point on their ability to borrow technology and implement it
> > quickly. It's about numbers over there, not sense.
>
> My objection to ZTE/Hauwei when I was at a cellular telco was just this.  I
> said "there was no way I can agree with Chinese nationals having unfettered
> access to our network".
>
> Sure the CLI was crap/nonexistent and full of bugs, but I never thought the
> product was phoning home.  I assumed there was a backdoor, like every other
> product and this was dealt with via ACL's and bastion boxes.
>
> I did not think highly of the product, and did not want to select it.
>  However
> ZTE made the offer to put 6 support engineers in our main switch office
> 24/7
> for the first year, and open an office down the street.  Our SVP creamed
> himself over this level of "support" and they got the contract.
>
> It's an awesome idea, build gear that's cheap enough you can't say no to,
> and
> use the support personnel as spies.  It provides a perfect cover story to
> cycle in loads of engineers.  Only one or two does the support, the rest
> can
> observe/record/share the internal details of everything they see.
>
> They are playing our love of "But Wait There's More!". Give us everything
> at
> deep discounts or for free and receive direct access to the core of every
> major telecom company on the planet.  For a few hundred million dollars the
> Chinese government has intelligence on anyone or anything world wide, and
> their agents are welcomed with open arms.
>
>
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