PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project

Fri Jun 7 21:21:01 UTC 2013

Wink wink
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/06/07/startup-palantir-denies-its-prism-software-is-the-nsas-prism-surveillance-system/

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-------- Original message --------
From: "Jason L. Sparks" <jlsparks at gmail.com>
Date: 06/07/2013 1:31 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Warren Bailey <wbailey at satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Cc: Jay Ashworth <jra at baylink.com>,NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project

I assume the unclassified word "Prism" (which is found everywhere on IC resumes and open job descriptions) refers to Palantir's Prism suite.  Could be wrong, but seems logical.

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Warren Bailey <wbailey at satelliteintelligencegroup.com<mailto:wbailey at satelliteintelligencegroup.com>> wrote:
Has anyone found out if this system is actually based on Narus? I associated this program as a super version of the AT&T thing, and if I recall it was understood that was Narus and Co via NSA/FBI?

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-------- Original message --------
From: Jay Ashworth <jra at baylink.com<mailto:jra at baylink.com>>
Date: 06/07/2013 12:16 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: NANOG <nanog at nanog.org<mailto:nanog at nanog.org>>
Subject: Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Valdis Kletnieks" <Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu<mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu>>

> On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:57:07 -0700, Mark Seiden said:
> > and also, only $20m/year? in my experience, the govt cannot do
> > anything like this addressing even a single provider for that little money.
>
> Convince me the *real* number doesn't have another zero.
>
> Remember - the $20M number came from a source that has *very* good
> reason to lie as much as it can right now about the true extent of this.

Indeed.  Luckily, the press is all over this like a bad smell.

I mentioned The Story in a new posting just now; they have, surprisingly,
already managed to dig at this spot, a pretty quick response for them:

http://www.thestory.org/stories/2013-06/americans-spying-americans

Cheers,
-- jra
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