PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project

Fri Jun 7 20:28:23 UTC 2013

Has anyone found out if this system is actually based on Narus? I associated this program as a super version of the AT&T thing, and if I recall it was understood that was Narus and Co via NSA/FBI?

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-------- Original message --------
From: Jay Ashworth <jra at baylink.com>
Date: 06/07/2013 12:16 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Valdis Kletnieks" <Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu>

> On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:57:07 -0700, Mark Seiden said:
> > and also, only $20m/year? in my experience, the govt cannot do
> > anything like this addressing even a single provider for that little money.
>
> Convince me the *real* number doesn't have another zero.
>
> Remember - the $20M number came from a source that has *very* good
> reason to lie as much as it can right now about the true extent of this.

Indeed.  Luckily, the press is all over this like a bad smell.

I mentioned The Story in a new posting just now; they have, surprisingly,
already managed to dig at this spot, a pretty quick response for them:

http://www.thestory.org/stories/2013-06/americans-spying-americans

Cheers,
-- jra
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