ARIN WHOIS for leads

Matthew Petach mpetach at
Sun Jul 28 07:46:35 UTC 2013

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia at> wrote:

> On 7/27/13, Valdis.Kletnieks at <Valdis.Kletnieks at> wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:18:52 -0500, Jimmy Hess said:
> > I have to admit that this is the biggest can-o-worms suggestion > I've
> seen all week.
> > (Hint:  our org chart says I work in our Network Storage and Backup
> > group - the lurker in the next cubicle does our abuse@ handling but
> My implication was not that ORG charts or person's actual job should
> be looked at.   By vetted;  I meant the person was subject to a
> background check,  and also proved that they have technical knowledge.
> That's about "reducing noise"  by providing contacts that can only be
> accessed by people who proved they knew well enough what they were
> doing,  to avoid submitting "false outage reports";    for example,
> so they wouldn't be the people  complaining  to  the hosting
> provider's  IP technical contact  about some random customer web
> server spitting out 404 pages..
> In other words ---  they would have passed a knowledge proof,  showing
> they deserve the right to bypass  "Level 1 call center drones".
> E.g.  to gain enhanced access in a world with 'an additional level of
> whois access'
> Step 1...
>   1. Submit an application with a nominal fee, explain to the RIR
> your periodic use of WHOIS,   and how you would benefit from seeing
> 'special contacts' data;  also including signed NDA  regarding
> 'enhanced'   extra contact information.
>   2. Pay ongoing fees for criminal/spammer background checks, with
> results forwarded to the RIR.
>   3.  Show up at a RIR meeting, and sign the guest list --  or
> otherwise, get other members of the community to vouch for your
> character and technical capability, or,  as an alternative show
> technical credentials in the form of an earned professional level
> networking industry certification requiring a performance-based lab
> assessment with advanced network troubleshooting of Layer 1 through 4
> on real equipment.

If you're going to *that* level of validation,
just join INOC-DBA and be done with it:


> Those were some examples.
> I didn't mean to imply  "Ask to see companies' org charts,  try to
> untangle the mess for every AS,  and  examine job descriptions"
> --
> -JH

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