ARIN WHOIS for leads

Warren Bailey wbailey at
Thu Jul 25 23:41:32 UTC 2013

I won't pretend to know how it's getting out there. Google your email address in about 10 minutes and see this conversation in 10 different lists.

As Mark mentioned, this list has a lot of valuable eyes looking at it - so it's often a <insert snake oil o' the month> sales guy's wet dream. On the upside, solarwinds sent me a random 10 dollar amazon gift card a few weeks back so not all is lost.. ;)

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-------- Original message --------
From: Justin Vocke <justin.vocke at>
Date: 07/25/2013 4:37 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Warren Bailey <wbailey at>
Cc: surfer at,nanog at
Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads

I'm pretty sure you have to sign a AUP or something to get access to the mass whois tool with ARIN, I'm just not sure of how they enforce what people are actually doing with the list.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Warren Bailey <wbailey at<mailto:wbailey at>> wrote:
I read your response and totally agree. I'm just saying that your dollars not being spent with someone will probably not result in the calls stopping. Advertising and marketing dominates this planet now, and people make big money by selling "lists" to organizations making a buck. Not saying these people didn't get it directly, but it should not be expected to stop unless there is a do not call registry (as I would think those guys would fall under a telemarketing agency). I could be wrong..

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-------- Original message --------
From: Scott Weeks <surfer at<mailto:surfer at>>
Date: 07/25/2013 4:28 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: nanog at<mailto:nanog at>
Subject: RE: ARIN WHOIS for leads

--- wbailey at<mailto:wbailey at> wrote:
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey at<mailto:wbailey at>>

We registered a few domains and get the same thing, I think
it's something that people are going to have to live with. :/

No, we don't have to live with it.  Name-n-shame and let us
vote with our dollars.  As I've said in the past, the ONLY
thing they'll understand is negative impact to their bottom


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