google troubles?

Mike Jackson mike at routed.ca
Wed Jul 10 18:55:55 UTC 2013


That makes sense, I figured it was some type of a CDN caching environment.
I've found that youtube.com is in the same boat:

Translating "www.youtube.com"...domain server (8.8.8.8) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to youtube-ui.l.google.com (24.156.153.40)


[synkro:ROOT](~): jwhois 24.156.153.40 | grep -i orgname
OrgName:        Rogers Cable Communications Inc.
[synkro:ROOT](~):


Thanks!

  - MJ


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com
> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Christopher Morrow
> <morrowc.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mike Jackson <mike at routed.ca> wrote:
> >> I just realized that it's not Google IP space (74.125.0.0/16), Rogers
> is
> >> hijacking the DNS and resolving www.google.com to space within
> >> 64.71.240.0/20 which is Rogers IP space! (note the name server set as
> >> 8.8.8.8)
> >>
> >
> > so:
> >  1) rogers is hijacking traffic to 8.8.8.8
> >  2) the copy of 8.8.8.8 in rogers-land is replying with incorrect
> > information for google properties (at least).
> >
> > err... any idea if it's lying about other things too? :)
> >
>
> oops, so a polite caller noted that google often ships people at a
> local 'google global cache' node if they have one... it seems like
> that might be what's going on here with 8.8.8.8 sending you to 64.71
> and/or 66.185 addresses.
>
> so maybe rogers isn't doing something untoward after all!
>
> -chris
> (thanks for the headslap polite caller)
>
> >> davinci#traceroute www.google.com
> >>
> >> Translating "www.google.com"...domain server (8.8.8.8) [OK]
> >>
> >> Type escape sequence to abort.
> >> Tracing the route to www.google.com (66.185.85.29)
> >>
> >>   1 x.x.x.x [AS 812] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
> >>   2 so-4-0-2.gw02.ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.82.129) [AS
> 812] 8
> >> msec 8 msec 4 msec
> >>   3 69.63.252.222 [AS 812] 4 msec 0 msec 8 msec
> >>   4 69.63.250.162 [AS 812] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
> >>   5  *  *  *
> >>   6  *  *  *
> >>   7  *  *  *
> >>   8  *  *  *
> >>   9  *  *  *
> >>  10  *  *  *
> >>
> >> TOR2-CORE-R1#show ip bgp 66.185.85.29
> >> BGP routing table entry for 66.185.80.0/20, version 13095115
> >> Paths: (1 available, best #1, table default)
> >>   Advertised to update-groups:
> >>      14
> >>   701 6461 812
> >>     205.205.23.121 from 205.205.23.121 (137.39.8.42)
> >>       Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best
> >> TOR2-CORE-R1#
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>   - Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Mike Jackson <mike at routed.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I can see the Google IP space (64.71.240.0/20) from Verizon/AS701, but
> >>> not from Rogers/AS812 in Toronto.  I've done a few other test
> traceroutes
> >>> through Rogers to verify that they didn't filter UDP/ICMP.  At this
> point
> >>> nothing would surprise me from Rogers.
> >>>
> >>> AS701
> >>> =====
> >>>
> >>> TOR2-CORE-R1#traceroute www.google.com
> >>> Translating "www.google.com"...domain server (8.8.8.8) [OK]
> >>>
> >>> Type escape sequence to abort.
> >>> Tracing the route to www.google.com (74.125.26.99)
> >>> VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id)
> >>>   1 x.x.x.x [AS701] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
> >>>   2 0.ge-11-0-0.XT4.TOR2.ALTER.NET (152.63.133.78) [AS 701] 4 msec 0
> msec
> >>> 4 msec
> >>>   3 0.so-4-0-3.XT2.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.73) [AS 701] 16 msec 16
> msec
> >>> 16 msec
> >>>   4 TenGigE0-7-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.125) [AS 701] 20 msec
> >>>     TenGigE0-5-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.73) [AS 701] 16 msec
> >>>     TenGigE0-5-4-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.18.206) [AS 701] 20 msec
> >>>   5 72.14.238.232 [AS 15169] 16 msec 16 msec 20 msec
> >>>   6 72.14.236.208 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 680976 Exp 4] 16 msec 16 msec
> >>>     72.14.236.206 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 533197 Exp 4] 20 msec
> >>>   7 209.85.249.11 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 16668 Exp 4] 24 msec
> >>>     72.14.239.93 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 14644 Exp 4] 24 msec
> >>>     209.85.249.11 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 13978 Exp 4] 24 msec
> >>>   8 209.85.243.114 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 568789 Exp 4] 32 msec
> >>>     209.85.241.222 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 632535 Exp 4] 32 msec 32
> msec
> >>>   9 216.239.48.159 [AS 15169] 36 msec 32 msec
> >>>     216.239.48.59 [AS 15169] 32 msec
> >>>  10 www.google.com (74.125.26.147) [AS 15169] 32 msec 32 msec 32 msec
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> AS812 (Rogers Looking Glass https://supernoc.rogerstelecom.net/lg/)
> >>> ===================================================
> >>>
> >>> *Query:* *tr 64.71.249.45*
> >>>
> >>> Type escape sequence to abort.
> >>> Tracing the route to 64.71.249.45
> >>>
> >>>   1 64.71.255.62 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
> >>>   2 ge-4-3-0.gw02.ym.phub.net.cable.ROGERS.com (66.185.82.237) 4 msec
> 4 msec 4 msec
> >>>   3 69.63.250.189 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
> >>>   4 69.63.250.174 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
> >>>   5  *  *  *
> >>>   6  *  *  *
> >>>   7  *  *  *
> >>>   8  *  *  *
> >>>   9  *  *  *
> >>>  10  *  *  *
> >>>  11  *  *  *
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> >>>  22  *  *  *
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> >>>  30  *  *  *
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>>   - MJ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Grant Ridder [mailto:shortdudey123 at gmail.com]
> >>>> Sent: July-10-13 10:57 AM
> >>>> To: John York
> >>>> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: google troubles?
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone have traceroutes showing where the issues are?
> >>>>
> >>>> -Grant
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:45 AM, John York
> >>>> <johny at griffintechnology.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > We saw the same thing, but seems to be cleared up now. All our
> >>>> > providers that routed to Google addresses in ATL had the issue. We
> >>>> > have one provider that lands on Google addresses in DFW, and it was
> >>>> working.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > ...And now I see that it isn't completely resolved. Some Google apps
> >>>> > are still inaccessible via the Atlanta routes.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Blair Trosper
> >>>> > <blair.trosper at gmail.com
> >>>> > >wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > Seeing lots of reports of people unable to get to many Google
> >>>> services.
> >>>> > >  Seems to be affecting Comcast users disproportionately.  It's
> fine
> >>>> > > for
> >>>> > me,
> >>>> > > but a lot of my staff are basically out of luck...but according to
> >>>> > > the Google Apps Status page, everything is fine.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > It's anecdotal, but it would seem like there's an issue based on
> >>>> > > these reports.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Oh, and this:
> >>>> > > http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/tech/web/google-down/index.html
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Anyone know what's up?  Fiber cut?  DC outages?
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > -- blair
> >>>> > >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > --
> >>>> >
> >>>> > John York
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Information Technology | Network Administrator
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Phone: 615-399-7000 x:333
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Griffin Technology
> >>>> > 2030 Lindell Avenue Nashville, TN  37203 USA
> >>>> >
> >>>> > This message and any attachments should be treated as confidential
> >>>> > information of Griffin Technology, Inc.
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>



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