"Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications"....

Wed Jan 30 23:00:22 UTC 2013

In message <51099C0F.5040507 at mtcc.com>, Michael Thomas writes:
> On 01/30/2013 01:51 PM, Cutler James R wrote:
> > On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:43 PM, joel jaeggli <joelja at bogus.com> wrote:
> >
> >> As a product of having a motorola sb6121 and a netgear wndr3700 both of wh
> ich I bought at frys I have ipv6 in my house with dhcp pd curtesy of commcast
> . If it was any simpler somebody else would have had to install it.
> >>
> > Except that Apple Airport Extreme users must have one of the newer hardware
>  versions, that is my experience as well.
> >
> > And, even before Comcast and new AEBS, Hurricane Electric removed all other
>  excuses for claiming "no IPv6".
> 
> "Remove excuses" != "Create incentive". There are an infinite number of
> things I can do to "remove excuses". Unless they're in my face (read: causing
> me headaches), they do not "create incentive". My using my or my company's
> software which doesn't work in my own environment (= work, home, phone, etc)
> "creates incentive". Lecturing me about how I can get a HE tunnel and that if
> I don't i'm ugly and my mother dresses me funny, otoh, just "creates vexation
> ".
> 
> Mike
>

Just having IPv6 doesn't create incentives to make their code work
with IPv6.  People just trundle along using IPv4.  Turning off IPv4
creates incentives.  Reducing IPv4's capabilities creates incentives.
Being told this needs to work and be tested with IPv6 creates
incentives.

Broken networks get people to fix things.  Unfortunately most
developers don't test with broken networks.  If they did "Happy
Eyeballs" would not have happened.  The applications would have
coped with only some address of a multi-homed server working.

Mark
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