Muni network ownership and the Fourth

Jason Baugher jason at
Wed Jan 30 22:13:38 UTC 2013

Sorry Owen, but I live in Illinois. Government corruption is a way of life

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at> wrote:

> On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:33 AM, Jason Baugher <jason at> wrote:
> > There is much talk of how many fibers can fit in a duct, can be brought
> > into a colo space, etc... I haven't seen much mention of how much space
> the
> > termination in the colo would take, such as splice trays, bulkheads,
> etc...
> > Someone earlier mentioned being able to have millions of fibers coming
> > through a vault, which is true assuming they are just passing through the
> > vault. When you need to break into one of those 864-fiber cables, the
> room
> > for splice cases suddenly becomes a problem.
> >
> > The other thing I find interesting about this entire thread is the
> > assumption by most that a government entity would do a good job as a
> > layer-1 or -2 provider and would be more efficient than a private
> company.
> > Governments, including municipalities, are notorious for corruption,
> fraud,
> > waste - you name it. Even when government bids out projects to the
> private
> > sector these problems are seen.
> I now this is a popular refrain, but in reality, it's not all that
> accurate.
> I have no problem with allowing L1/L2 to be done by private enterprise, so
> long as said private enterprises are required to abide by the following
> rules:
> 1.      They are not allowed to sell L3+ services.
> 2.      They are not allowed to own any portion of any L3+ service
> provider.
> 3.      They must sell their L1/L2 services to any L3+ service provider on
>         equal terms.
> Owen

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